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These two Facebook pages (here and here), the former of which has–ironically, perhaps–declared war on the latter, ignited quite a debate. Here’s a list of my initial thoughts before I start analyzing this:

1. I don’t consider soldiers hired thugs.
2. I am aware that some soldiers commit atrocities, which is a reality few people admit. Given the conditioning soldiers endure, coupled with varying levels of power over peers, subordinates, and/or civilians, situations (read: Abu Ghraib) similar to the Stanford Prison Experiment appear inevitable.
3. I consider war an atrocity (though sometimes a necessary evil), but smaller governing bodies shoulder the blame for initiating it, not the soldiers.
4. I am a firm believer in freedom of speech, almost without exception.

The Iraq war is a cauldron of controversy. It started with a retaliation in Afghanistan for the events of 9/11 and, under false pretense, spilled over into Iraq. Though history has yet to ascertain the damage, it may prove to be one of the most costly and unpopular wars, ever. The Iraq war sparked a ideological issue between those that whole-heartedly support the troops versus those who disapprove of supporting the greater cause and preceding events. The “Soldiers are not heroes” profile picture is a silhouette of Satar Jabar, perched on his box, alluding to one of the most politically disastrous events for the military.

The charge against “Soldiers are not heroes” (SANH) by “Petition to REMOVE “Soldiers are not heroes” from Facebook” (PTRS) is they are using “Hate Speech and Defamatory Comments towards Allied Service Members.” Hate speech, even if meant to result in physical harm, is still–with a few exceptions–protected by the First Amendment. Interestingly enough, PTRS mentions that they “[are] not against “Freedom of Speech.” In order to argue their case, PTRS needs to prove SANH’s comments are, either, defamatory or against Facebook conduct guidelines (which I haven’t read as of this post).

SAHN’s page states (discounting wall posts and links since the source may or may not be the views of the creators):

Does the thought of hero worshiping our armed forces make you want to vomit your spleen out?
Are you fed up of being told that soldiers deserve constant gushing praise?
Stand up and show members of the armed forces what you really think of them and their participation in needless bloodshed.

Though meant to be offensive, the above contains nothing that could be interpreted as hate speech. The group requests that its members wear t-shirts with extremely controversial slogans (e.g. ”Proud not to murder civilians for a living,” ”I was raped by soldiers and all I got was this lousy t-shirt,” etc.). Unfortunately, because of the satirical nature and debatable validity of these statements, it, again, would be difficult to prove any of these as defamatory. To clarify the group’s purpose, SANH’s page posted this in its “Recent News” section:

This group is a parody of the group ‘support your soldiers in uniform!!!’ 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11911667121&ref=share

This group is intended to point out the absurdity of the many groups on facebook that portray all soldiers to be heroes and shower the armed forces with unconditional praise.

Putting on a soldiers uniform and becoming part of a murderous organisation does not make you a hero.

Supporters of the group generally agree that the wars that our armed forces are participating in at the present time and in recent years are unecessary and unjust. Therefore we don’t feel that we should be pressured into offering ‘support’ to people fighting and killing innocent people for causes that we don’t believe in.

We recognise that the government are mainly to blame but also think that members of the forces need to take responsiblity for their own actions in choosing to support these causes. Soldiers have free will and the opportunity to not sign/re-sign up if they feel they are being asked to participate in an unjust war, so they also deserve a proportion of the blame if they choose to stay.

We also find it amusing how so many of those who claim to ‘protect our freedoms of speech’ tell us to shut up, or be duffed up.

“Soldiers are not heroes. They can be heroes, they can act heroically, they can do heroic things – but the act of putting on a uniform and agreeing to put your conscience in a lockbox for the next so many years does not make your life more important than others, it does not make your opinions and insights more worthy of respect than others, it does not exempt you from moral judgment. It does not make you a hero.

And we should not fall prey to hero-worship.”
http://whoviating.blogspot.com/2008/06/heroics.html

Let’s protest against these group protesting against the protests against the forces ffs!!!

THIS GROUP ISN’T A SOLDIER HATRED GROUP, JUST A GROUP AGAINST THE HERO WORSHIP OF SOLDIERS.

After checking out the “Support your soldiers in uniform!!” (SYSIU) group, I have to agree that it’s a close parody, even down to a quip about the font and color on the t-shirts to keep them “uniform.” The debates on this news piece, especially regarding the soldiers’ free-will, post-enlisting, are fully open.

After a great deal of time and review, I believe PTRS is mistaken in their goal, especially if they believe their own claim to be pro-freedom-of-speech. SANH’s latest claim to be a parody and not a “soldier hatred group” seems believable. Hopefully, this Facebook skirmish stays confined within the Facebook realm and avoids the judicial system, which is always my fear when it comes to matters of freedom–or suppression–of speech.